tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5726568977559996815.post6427411766451386556..comments2023-10-10T09:30:15.930+01:00Comments on Blog of Grudges: let's try this again: Throwing AxesRedCraighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05167304682496448067noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5726568977559996815.post-32308009248854470562011-02-26T20:49:50.819+00:002011-02-26T20:49:50.819+00:00Definitely does, but it's the same with a lot ...Definitely does, but it's the same with a lot of things. It's weird that not a single axe, no matter who tosses it, only goes 6" and never further. <br /><br />I guess you'll just have to imagine the battlefield as more fluid and rules only as representations of this. As you know, you'll be able to throw things a lot further if you run a few steps before you hurl it. So imagine the Rangers, once they notice the enemy charging towards them, instead of standing still and tossing axes at them like if they're small rocks,, runs forward and hurls their weapons with all force they can muster (explains the +1S) while preparing their great weapons for the upcoming skirmish, if their throwing axes didn't force the enemy to a halt already.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13338331969104145961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5726568977559996815.post-47620139132937015762011-02-26T17:44:29.063+00:002011-02-26T17:44:29.063+00:00Yeah I get that 'stand and shoot' is resol...Yeah I get that 'stand and shoot' is resolved when the charge is declared - it just would seem a little unfair if the charge failed and the unit didn't even get to within 6 inches, <br />i.e. your unit is 14" away, <br />your max charge distance is 16" so you declare the charge,<br />I stand and shoot, and immediately resolve it and you take some wounds,<br />your charges have all been declared so you roll for the distance, and you only get 7" (unlikely I know), which means you're still 7" away.<br />The max range of throwing axes is 6", so how could they even hit you?<br /><br />I know it's a technicality, it just seems odd!RedCraighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05167304682496448067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5726568977559996815.post-27878791407888053372011-02-25T20:41:34.722+00:002011-02-25T20:41:34.722+00:00Hehe, good questions! You solve the stand and shoo...Hehe, good questions! You solve the stand and shoot reaction immediately once someone declares a charge, with all models able to see the enemy getting to shoot (or throw in this case). If they're out of line of sight they don't shoot. You don't move your units yet. Once all charges have been declared (with following reactions) you roll for distance and move your models/units.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13338331969104145961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5726568977559996815.post-69859046384630051252011-02-25T16:25:40.202+00:002011-02-25T16:25:40.202+00:00I was thinking of something along those horde line...I was thinking of something along those horde lines all right - it's just such a tough roll, 6's to hit a unit that's charging you.<br />Nice touch with the RoChallenge, it might be worth it to try pull the line out of shape.<br /><br />What happens to stand and shoot if it's a failed charge? I'd assume the enemy don't make it to 6" you don't get the range, and don't get to stand and shoot?<br /><br />What would happen then if the enemy what charging the the front, but on the very left of your unit, so that the right flank models are more than 6" from the enemy. Do only models in range get to shoot even though the whole unit is being charged (as the enemy unit aligns to maximise base to base contact)?RedCraighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05167304682496448067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5726568977559996815.post-37437358310237766332011-02-25T15:14:15.909+00:002011-02-25T15:14:15.909+00:00Very true, it's quite an expensive upgrade... ...Very true, it's quite an expensive upgrade... But say that you're running a Longbeard Ranger Horde of 30+ dwarfs, equipped with throwing axes. Deploy them 12" away from the enemy, join a Thane with Rune of Brotherhood and Rune of Challenge to them, then force the enemy to charge you and throw S5 axes at him!<br /><br />I don't know, it might still not be worth it but at least it'd be cool :DDennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13338331969104145961noreply@blogger.com